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Re: Paralyzed Dog kicking

Postby CarolC » Thu Aug 02, 2018 3:49 pm

That is great about the ramp. Thanks for posting the facebook link, I was surprised! There's a May 12 video where she is standing well and walking a little. She might be slow and hesitant, but I am impressed! Some of your rehab must be working. Can you explain more about it? How far can she go if you stand her up? Does she ever flip her feet under and walk on her knuckles? Does she ever lose her balance? Her muscle mass in her hindquarters looked good. This is the video I was watching.

https://www.facebook.com/71496430855546 ... 516448567/

Also, I had no idea she was deaf. You were so nice to adopt a deaf dog! :angel:
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Re: Paralyzed Dog kicking

Postby RedKat » Thu Aug 02, 2018 4:04 pm

See that is the thing, she has done nothing but get worse. If you see the post in order you will watch her from walking to limping, to slowly moving, and at this point, she can't even roll over on her own. I water her with a syringe, I turn her food bowl sideways so she can "scoop" with her tongue. She can't stand at all she is too weak. A lot of this last month has been wasted on how to get her therapy instead of her having therapy. So she has done nothing but lay down. As I have had a hard time moving, lifting, turning her. So I'm really hoping we can go in the other direction now. She paddles pretty well with her front legs, and I would give her about 85%. I saw her back right leg move twice on Wednesday as she was trying desperately to get to shore. She so hates this but loves being back outside, and we are going to do it even if she hates because she can't do anything to stop me. When she can walk away then we will do something else.
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Re: Paralyzed Dog kicking

Postby CarolC » Thu Aug 02, 2018 5:54 pm

RedKat wrote:See that is the thing, she has done nothing but get worse. If you see the post in order you will watch her from walking to limping, to slowly moving, and at this point, she can't even roll over on her own. I water her with a syringe, I turn her food bowl sideways so she can "scoop" with her tongue. She can't stand at all she is too weak. A lot of this last month has been wasted on how to get her therapy instead of her having therapy. So she has done nothing but lay down.


That is just so strange. If someone has a dachshund (for example) that is diagnosed with a spinal problem, one of the treatment options for some dachshunds is 8 or even 10 weeks of strict crate rest. They stay in their small crate 24/7, only out to potty, and for toileting they are carried to and from the grass, and only allowed to potty on a leash with a minimum of movement, then right back in the crate. During this time of 2 months or more when they have no physical therapy and as little movement as possible, they do not slowly lose the ability to turn over or eat. At most they might lose a little muscle mass in their hindquarters. So I do not see how lack of physical therapy could cause a noticeable change like you describe in one month. Don't fault yourself, you have been doing a lot. I would lean toward thinking this is something with her and not with you, and I don't think she is doing it on purpose, so neither one of you is to blame. It seems like there must be some reason behind it. It's just not clear what it is.

Did the vet say she has a neck problem? Did he say anything about Wobbler syndrome?

It could be something temporary. Are you noticing any signs of a urinary tract infection, such as a change in the color or odor of the urine?

Also, did you ever get a chance to ask the vet about the crunching you noticed in her shoulder blades? I have never heard of that. I would really like to know what that is.

I'm sorry for so many questions. I don't know, I am just trying to figure this out. Maybe some of the answers are further down your fb timeline. I am going to keep looking at your fb page. I am not a member of fb and it keeps popping up the login screen and the videos freeze half the time, probably because of my wonderful internet connection. :roll:
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Re: Paralyzed Dog kicking

Postby RedKat » Thu Aug 02, 2018 6:14 pm

Her injury is between her front shoulder blades. I have no idea what Wobbler syndrome. As far as I know, she doesn't have a bladder infection. No, I haven't been to the vet since then. I don't have the money to take her. I owe my next door neighbor $67.00 for the last visit. Which I'm hoping to be able to pay in Sept. Maggie was never placed on create rest that I recall.
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Re: Paralyzed Dog kicking

Postby CarolC » Thu Aug 02, 2018 9:39 pm

OK, thanks.

I think it said on the fb page that she was on prednisone for a little while. Was she doing better on the prednisone? It would tend to decrease inflammation and might help her neck feel better so she could move better.

Just wondering if the reason she is lying down so much is maybe because it is uncomfortable or painful for her to sit up at the moment? I don't know. Sometimes anti-inflammatory meds or muscle relaxers help. Sometimes rest helps, but sometimes sensible light activity helps restore things. That may be why the vet recommended hydrotherapy.

I think different dogs show pain differently. Some of them will whine and cry and tremble. Some will become quiet and withdrawn and kind of hide it and keep it in.

Here is a list of signs of pain in dogs from the AKC.

https://www.akc.org/expert-advice/healt ... s-in-pain/ wrote:The most obvious signs of pain in dogs include:
  • Anxiety
  • Agitation
  • Vocalization
  • Trembling
  • Restlessness
  • Increased breathing rate.

More subtle signs include:
  • Increased heart rate
  • Reduced appetite
  • Depression
  • Reluctance to move

I contacted Nancy at Walkin' Wheels to see if she knows of any adjustment on the wheelchair to make it easier for a dog with a problem in the neck or between the shoulders. Will see what she recommends. She'll probably know if there is anything that can be done to improve that. I think you might have been right to keep her out of it, at the point where you weren't sure it was helping. But it would be easier on you if there is a way to make it work.

Your dog is lucky. You got her a wheelchair, a sports cart, a swimming tank, a flotation vest, a special bed, and even a cold laser. I don't know how many of your friends or neighbors have cared for a 60-lb down dog for 7 months, but I did it with my golden retriever, Merlin, who started out at 63 lbs when he went down. I lived alone and was 52 at the time with a previous back problem. I had to be really careful every day how I did anything with him. I dislocated a rib, rotated vertebrae, and messed up the SI joint, among other things. I found that taking Aleve took the edge off, and I wish I had tried it sooner. When you talk about aches and arthritis and your back, I believe you.

EDIT TO ADD: If she's had any kind of bite (even a small one) or puncture wound in the skin where it is squishy-crunchy, that could be a useful clue.
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Re: Paralyzed Dog kicking

Postby RedKat » Sat Aug 04, 2018 4:56 am

The reason that She lays down all the time is that she can no longer set up. She has slowly gotten worse and worse over time starting out with that limp that I was telling you about until we're to the point now where she can't even sit up. Where I have to feed her my holding her Bowl sideways. And I have to water her with a 35 ml syringe. Otherwise she can't do it. We have done 3 days of water therapy though and today was the third and it went pretty good. She wanted to swim to shore, so I left her. And she moved her back legs a very little bit, not much, but a little. So I’m hoping to see more improvements as we go along.
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Re: Paralyzed Dog kicking

Postby critters » Thu Aug 09, 2018 7:15 am

Well, at least it sounds like good possibilities! :D
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Re: Paralyzed Dog kicking

Postby RedKat » Thu Aug 09, 2018 11:29 am

There is a new video up on the GG andMaggie Jo show. It's of her 4th session. It's a good one!

https://www.facebook.com/The-GG-and-Mag ... 308555466/
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Re: Paralyzed Dog kicking

Postby CarolC » Thu Aug 09, 2018 4:45 pm

Super good! Working both legs and she looks pleasantly tired and happy in her cart afterward. What a pretty place that is.

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Re: Paralyzed Dog kicking

Postby RedKat » Thu Aug 09, 2018 5:26 pm

Yes, she normally takes about 2-3 hr nap after we get done. But she is happy. LoL She looks forward to getting out of the water, being in the water scares her still. She is scared that she will go underwater and won't come back up. So she is very happy to be done.
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