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Tobemeghan
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Fleas

Post by Tobemeghan » Mon Jul 08, 2013 10:41 am

This probably doesn't qualify as a topic here but I am having a terrible time with fleas (and my handicapped dog has a terrible time as he can't even itch very well!). I have tried Frontline, Frontline plus, K9 Advantex, Revolution (from the vet) and various other store brands and NOTHING has worked to keep the fleas away! The poor dogs are going mad (especially the two that are allergic to flea bites). I give them baths with flea soap and use a flea comb but they the end of the day they are back. ANY ideas would be great, I am open to any natural methods or different brands of drops. I live in a "high flea" area (Kansas).

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Re: Fleas

Post by CarolC » Mon Jul 08, 2013 11:24 am

Darn, you've gone to a lot of expense getting really good flea treatments, which should have worked. :? In each case, I assume you were following the directions, right? Some of them say not to apply the drops right after a bath, you have to wait (but I don't remember how long you have to wait).

Perhaps you could treat the back yard. They may be picking up fresh fleas every time they go outdoors, especially if you have a neighbor with dogs who are not being treated for fleas. :roll: The very best thing I've found for indoors is to vacuum the carpet every other day without fail, which is a lot of vacuuming, and throwing away the bag. You go through a lot of vacuum cleaner bags, and they cost money, but it works.

I think it is an important topic for a disabled dog who can't scratch. I'm sure your dogs think it's important, too.

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Re: Fleas

Post by critters » Tue Jul 09, 2013 7:03 am

I've found that Frontline and Advantage don't last a month. I've found that in an infestation I have to use them every 3 weeks or so; I use it again the minute I start seeing jumpers again. I've also used the spray stuff on bedding, floors, etc. I don't trust it directly on critters, but it seems safe enough for stuff (and is great for ants, too!). Once I even got S-Methoprene concentrate, an insect growth regulator, from Florida and used it on stuff diluted down in a standard pump sprayer. It doesn't do direct kill, but it keeps eggs from hatching.

Yeah, it's hard. I don't want my wonkers, in particular, itchy, yet I'm also more careful, especially with the brain damaged ones. Sometimes it takes great guns for a couple of months to finally get the evil little monsters on the run. You probably will have to treat the yard, too. :x

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Re: Fleas

Post by Pixie_Kitten » Tue Feb 25, 2014 3:58 am

The fact that the treatments are only lasting one month suggests that eggs are hiding between fibers in the dogs beds/carpets/sofas. Have you tried getting a a exterminator in? We once had the same issue in our old house. Or cat was being treated almost weekly for heavy fleas and we didn't know why until one day one of the little critters jumped onto my leg! I was horrified ad embarrased so we called in the exterminator. He made us leave the house for 24 hours while his treatment worked. After that we traeted the cat again and NO MORE FLEAS! Hope that helps, the one off payment may say you £££ in treatments...

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Re: Fleas

Post by CutNGlass » Wed Aug 13, 2014 2:00 pm

It's been over 20 years since we had a terrible problem with fleas. Everyone was worried, as the fleas had become resistant to insecticides. We were living in Florida when our shih tzu got fleas when he was boarded for the weekend. I have very intense allergic reactions to petrochemicals which they use to dilute aerosol bug sprays with, in addition to hating the smell. We used a wonder product called "precor" which is an IGR (insect growth regulator). Anyhow it was at that time the "new" product that professionals were charging about $200 per room to treat. We used to be able to get it at home depot, but they have not carried the concentrate in years.

We have trouble finding it now in the form that I prefer: "Precor IGR Insect Growth Regulator 1 oz bottle". It is a concentrate which you use plain water to dilute. I do not like the pre-made sprays (which smell awful). I prefer to mail order the concentrate, rather than put up with smell of the other. Also more economical! You can also get a 16oz container, which usually runs less than $60. The 1 oz bottle is usually under $10, and is often available bundled with a "professional" pump sprayer with wand for a little more.

If you have to also treat your yard, you may wish to get the larger size.
A treatment lasts for about 6-7 months -- Really!

When we moved to Maryland, we either had to drive from Rockville to Baltimore, or get a friend to ship it to us from Florida, as the local home depot did not carry the precor concentrate. The pre-mix stuff gave me a headache, and also (see below) stained fabric.

my only caveats:
Just like any product which you use on fabric, you would want to "spot check" your upholstery (underside/back somewhere unnoticable) to make sure that it does not stain.
Being thorough with this once is worth it! I always vacuumed thoroughly, moving all furniture out. Change vacuum clean bag to new one (if permanent bag, then treat bag as well).
I prefer to thoroughly wash (and dry on high heat) any bedding, rather than treat with chemicals.
You do want to make sure that you give carpet adequate time to dry thoroughly before allowing pets back in room.

You also have to eradicate them from the dogs as well, but chemicals are not so good for them (duh). The same year that I discovered precor, my husband's officemate had two tiny little maltese which became so flea-infested with a very resistant type that one of them began to have seizures from the "dips" which the groomers gave them. Her vet was suggesting shaving them both to get all of the fleas off! She was nearly hysterical trying to figure out how to get rid of them. While her husband was spraying the house with precor, I was helping her bath and comb out the fleas, and even when we put the fleas we were combing out into a dish of concentrated flea killer, they didn't die! We were literally having to rinse the fleas down the drain on one side of the sink, while the other one bathed a dog on the other side. I was thankful that our "cuddles" had not had those "resistant fleas" yet! Someone else had mentioned to us about using oil -- food grade oil, not motor oil. Swear to goodness this worked! Not just to rid them of the fleas, but really made their coats beautiful. Basically doused them thoroughly with it, letting it soak all of the way down to the skin, and leaving it on for nearly an hour -- suffocates the fleas! We bundled them up in towels, and held them in our laps to keep them from licking off the oil. Then only problem was having to wash and wash and wash them to get the oil out of the fur (along with dead fleas). Liz said, it was like a "spa treatment" with hot oil for hair! And no worry about toxicity of chemicals being absorbed through their skin! When I see small white dogs, I think about that pitiful little pair of maltese. I shudder to think how much oil it would take to do the same thing for our great pyrenees!

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Re: Fleas

Post by sweetpaws » Wed Mar 23, 2016 12:57 am

This is one of our problems with our Shih Tzu too especially if the weather gets hotter. By the way, we also use Frontline though it lasted only for a few months and those fleas come back. But its good now, that after we changed his shampoo to a herbal-anti parasite shampoo, everything became normal. I guess, you just have to clean your dog regularly or sent him for a grooming. Otherwise, you should clean his environment too or the place your pet usually stay.

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Re: Fleas

Post by critters » Thu Mar 24, 2016 9:45 am

I switch products/active ingredients as the varmints become resistant to them. This year is terrible already because the eggs didn't freeze over the winter. Sigh.

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Re: Fleas

Post by GSDLover » Tue May 10, 2016 10:21 pm

I have had good results with Comfortis

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Re: Fleas

Post by abslender » Thu Oct 13, 2016 2:40 am

GSDLover wrote:I have had good results with Comfortis

Me too

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Re: Fleas

Post by critters » Thu Oct 13, 2016 7:42 am

I've heard good things about Comfortis, but I haven't used it unless as a generic.

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