>>Hi John!
Thanks for your response! Did I read your message correctly - you made your own cart? The cart in the photos does not look home made. Would you share your information on how you made your chart, materials, etc? Thanks!
- Deborah
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I'm a little slow today, so if you could give me a hour or two I will get the information on how I made John's cart up, and Posted.
Here is something that you might be interested in. It is a old Post on a harness I put together.
You have a Big dog, and Big dogs are a handful.
I would like to know, can you weld, or do you know of someone who can help you?
John's carts are make of steel tube!
Anyhow, I need a few minutes to dug out the cart design.
Check out this helper harness, and I'll be right back.
Kid John
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This week, John has been testing a new harness. It was created from pictures in a link, Critters posted.
We have made a harness very close to the one pictured, but we modified the strapping across the back. With a back injury you want to keep the spine free from pressure.
A strap was run on each side of the spine, keeping the spine itself, left free.
The people who created the Hip Helper have a very good design. John gives them a very high rating. The design makes a comfort zone, and John is willing to jump up, and go anywhere.
If you can use a support device like this, I would highly recommend this one.
If your FurKid has a back problem, the company could possible alter the back straps to accommodate the spine.
If you choose to make your own, the pictures are great to go by.
Critters, thanks for your help.
I would like those interested in the Hip Helper, to be able to see the site.
Deborah cart stuff
Re: Deborah cart stuff
Hi, John here.
I am going to bring up some of John’s Old Post Pages. These are Pages from the time that I built his cart.
Because of John’s size, and the location of his injury, building a cart for him was difficult.
Everything can be over come with a little work, and a lot of talk.
I am going to make a mess of this message board. I will start adding pages on how to make the cart, and some on the emotion, and satisfaction in making it.
I am not very good at this computer stuff, so Please forgive me.
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Posted by Kid John on 23:19:45 8/26/2001 from 198.81.16.27:
Hi Everyone, John here.
I have a drawing to show you. I hope I can get it here without begging for help.
It's John's 2 wheeled cart. This cart has been specifically designed for mid-back injuries. It creates a better weight distribution than any commercial cart I have seen. It is not limited to the mid-back injured dog.
The upright, or wheel mounting is moved forward, 2 inches more than other carts. The saddle rings have been moved back in the cart.
A rear bar, and small stationary wheel has been added to make extra stability.
(This aids when John is backing up, over the speep limit.)
While moving forward, the rear wheel clears the ground by about 5 inches.
With the wheels forward, there is more weight added to the rear of the cart. This makes the dogs own weight, act as a counter balance.
The belly strap is not just for looks.
The increased rear weight makes a lift on the cart arms, thereby making a firm lift on the belly strap.
This also, decreases the shoulder down pressure.
Everyone with a cart, thinks about the shoulder weight.
The cart is harder to flip over, because the wheels are almost centered, and more inclined to pivot, instead of flipping.
Everything that went into this design, is based on John's size, and weight.
The same type cart can be made with light weight materials. The measurments would have to be cut down for the smaller dog. John's height was our starting point.
The harness is much the same as other carts use, except John has a belly strap, directly under his injury.
I don't want to be too vague, on the description of the cart, so if you have any questions, I will be glad to keep talking.
Kid John
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Posted by Kid John on 11:05:42 8/20/2001 from 198.81.17.171:
It has been many months that John has not been able to do the things, he really likes. Desert Cruising, and Bunny Hunting. Yesterday, everything was put on hold. It was Johns day, and he took his New 2 wheeled cart out for a long distance, test drive.
As I had my first cup of coffee this morning, I had to just sit, and smile. The new cart has dirt from top to bottom.
John is learning to be careful. he knows that there is a added width, and He is moving well around sage brush, and rocks.
Digging at sage rat, and badger holes are not a problem. It is a one legged dig, nose down, butt in the air, and dirt flying.
We made a short day of it, because this was the 1st. day, and we do not want him to get sore. Later that night, I checked him all over for sorness that his harness might make, and stress that might have been put on his back.
There are "No" sore sports.
I am so happy to say, we have finally gave his life back to him. This new, old way of life comes with rules, for safety. Running on his own is out. He does run, and runs well for having something foreign strapped to him.
Today, I feel that a heavy yoke has been lifted off of me.
There are little things that will be changed, but the cart is a success. John said, it is.
Kid John
I will now try to dig out the cart design picture. Next Post.
I am going to bring up some of John’s Old Post Pages. These are Pages from the time that I built his cart.
Because of John’s size, and the location of his injury, building a cart for him was difficult.
Everything can be over come with a little work, and a lot of talk.
I am going to make a mess of this message board. I will start adding pages on how to make the cart, and some on the emotion, and satisfaction in making it.
I am not very good at this computer stuff, so Please forgive me.
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Posted by Kid John on 23:19:45 8/26/2001 from 198.81.16.27:
Hi Everyone, John here.
I have a drawing to show you. I hope I can get it here without begging for help.
It's John's 2 wheeled cart. This cart has been specifically designed for mid-back injuries. It creates a better weight distribution than any commercial cart I have seen. It is not limited to the mid-back injured dog.
The upright, or wheel mounting is moved forward, 2 inches more than other carts. The saddle rings have been moved back in the cart.
A rear bar, and small stationary wheel has been added to make extra stability.
(This aids when John is backing up, over the speep limit.)
While moving forward, the rear wheel clears the ground by about 5 inches.
With the wheels forward, there is more weight added to the rear of the cart. This makes the dogs own weight, act as a counter balance.
The belly strap is not just for looks.
The increased rear weight makes a lift on the cart arms, thereby making a firm lift on the belly strap.
This also, decreases the shoulder down pressure.
Everyone with a cart, thinks about the shoulder weight.
The cart is harder to flip over, because the wheels are almost centered, and more inclined to pivot, instead of flipping.
Everything that went into this design, is based on John's size, and weight.
The same type cart can be made with light weight materials. The measurments would have to be cut down for the smaller dog. John's height was our starting point.
The harness is much the same as other carts use, except John has a belly strap, directly under his injury.
I don't want to be too vague, on the description of the cart, so if you have any questions, I will be glad to keep talking.
Kid John
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Posted by Kid John on 11:05:42 8/20/2001 from 198.81.17.171:
It has been many months that John has not been able to do the things, he really likes. Desert Cruising, and Bunny Hunting. Yesterday, everything was put on hold. It was Johns day, and he took his New 2 wheeled cart out for a long distance, test drive.
As I had my first cup of coffee this morning, I had to just sit, and smile. The new cart has dirt from top to bottom.
John is learning to be careful. he knows that there is a added width, and He is moving well around sage brush, and rocks.
Digging at sage rat, and badger holes are not a problem. It is a one legged dig, nose down, butt in the air, and dirt flying.
We made a short day of it, because this was the 1st. day, and we do not want him to get sore. Later that night, I checked him all over for sorness that his harness might make, and stress that might have been put on his back.
There are "No" sore sports.
I am so happy to say, we have finally gave his life back to him. This new, old way of life comes with rules, for safety. Running on his own is out. He does run, and runs well for having something foreign strapped to him.
Today, I feel that a heavy yoke has been lifted off of me.
There are little things that will be changed, but the cart is a success. John said, it is.
Kid John
I will now try to dig out the cart design picture. Next Post.
Re: Deborah cart stuff
This should be the picture of the cart design.
If it does not come up, I will send it to you personally.
Cart Design
If it does not come up, I will send it to you personally.
Cart Design
cheap cart co (supposed to start at $50)
The site seems to be down now, but I have their snail mail addy and phone #, if you're interested.
petwagon
petwagon
PVC cart
Making a cart out of PVC
No pics were included, and cart is for a doxie, but could be adapted to fit other smaller critters (probably not pony pups like John, though
).
The following is the Materials list for the dog cart:
1/2 inch CPVC piping available at Canadian Tire.
4 - end caps
4 - T joints
4 - 90 degree joints
1 small can of CPVC cement
2 - 6 inch lawn mower wheels
8 - 1 inch washers
2 -3 inch bolts 3/8 inch
2 self locking nuts
2 - 12 inch by 3 1/2 inch loops of sheep skin
1 - 8 inch luggage strap with snap
1 - 8 inch luggage strap
12- 1/4 inch screws
This is a cart custom built for an adult
miniature-smooth male
dachshund
weighing approx. 10 and 1/2 pounds.
* handy hint: do not glue together until you are sure
it fits your dog
* luggage strapping and sheepskin are screwed into
CPVC piping with 1/4
inch
screws
Please note there is no strapping that goes under the
tummy, The
strapping
goes across the forechest, and over the shoulder
blades. The paralyzed
dog
only requires support in the rear not in the front
assembly. This rear
support
is provided by the sheepskin loops.
The dog will appear butt-high, this is necessary as
the rear legs will
stiffen
straight causing them to drag on floor if dog is
level. The added
height will
prevent open areas caused by dragging the toes. This
is not evident in
the
pictures as our model is a non-disabled actor! (And
was not harmed
during the
filming of this production!!) LOL
No pics were included, and cart is for a doxie, but could be adapted to fit other smaller critters (probably not pony pups like John, though
).The following is the Materials list for the dog cart:
1/2 inch CPVC piping available at Canadian Tire.
4 - end caps
4 - T joints
4 - 90 degree joints
1 small can of CPVC cement
2 - 6 inch lawn mower wheels
8 - 1 inch washers
2 -3 inch bolts 3/8 inch
2 self locking nuts
2 - 12 inch by 3 1/2 inch loops of sheep skin
1 - 8 inch luggage strap with snap
1 - 8 inch luggage strap
12- 1/4 inch screws
This is a cart custom built for an adult
miniature-smooth male
dachshund
weighing approx. 10 and 1/2 pounds.
* handy hint: do not glue together until you are sure
it fits your dog
* luggage strapping and sheepskin are screwed into
CPVC piping with 1/4
inch
screws
Please note there is no strapping that goes under the
tummy, The
strapping
goes across the forechest, and over the shoulder
blades. The paralyzed
dog
only requires support in the rear not in the front
assembly. This rear
support
is provided by the sheepskin loops.
The dog will appear butt-high, this is necessary as
the rear legs will
stiffen
straight causing them to drag on floor if dog is
level. The added
height will
prevent open areas caused by dragging the toes. This
is not evident in
the
pictures as our model is a non-disabled actor! (And
was not harmed
during the
filming of this production!!) LOL
"A Major Misunderstanding".
>> We're supposed to be doing a permanent page for...
You mean that Mark is going to setup a page that will short-cut all this type information????
What ever he is planning will help.
I think I will start, Reading twice and writing once. My fingers get ahead of my thoughts.
You mean that Mark is going to setup a page that will short-cut all this type information????
What ever he is planning will help.
I think I will start, Reading twice and writing once. My fingers get ahead of my thoughts.
Re: We're supposed to be doing a permanent page for
Yeah Right, Good One.
Life with you on this site, keeps the world turning.
Thanks for the uplifting words.
Kid John
Life with you on this site, keeps the world turning.
Thanks for the uplifting words.
Kid John
We're supposed to be doing a permanent page for
this stuff, too (eventually). Mark's already approved it.
Thanks Critters, I got a New toy.
Thanks Critters, I got a New toy.
I have a new CD ReWriter, and I am learning how to format the CD. I hope to file many of the Posts that are put up, and need to be reposted.
I will have handy, but separate file, that I can add to, or take from.
It is a nice toy, and Aid.
Kid John
I have just got a new CD ReWriter, and I am learning how to format the CD. I hope to file many of the Posts that are put up, and need to be reposted. I will have handy, but separate file, that I can add to, or take from.
It is a nice toy, and Aid.
Kid John
I have a new CD ReWriter, and I am learning how to format the CD. I hope to file many of the Posts that are put up, and need to be reposted.
I will have handy, but separate file, that I can add to, or take from.
It is a nice toy, and Aid.
Kid John
I have just got a new CD ReWriter, and I am learning how to format the CD. I hope to file many of the Posts that are put up, and need to be reposted. I will have handy, but separate file, that I can add to, or take from.
It is a nice toy, and Aid.
Kid John
You did GREAT with getting all those pages
into 1 post. I'm impressed!!