Starting to get diaper rash/sores

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Re: Starting to get diaper rash/sores

Post by krisrath11 » Tue Jul 25, 2017 7:39 pm

O, another odd question lol, what does everyone wash their diapers in when they both hand wash and machine? Or does most everyone use disposable? (My mom said bob looked funny in the disposable I think because they aren't colored. I either use baby shampoo or dawn by hand and when I do machine wash I use tide typically.

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Re: Starting to get diaper rash/sores

Post by BendyMom » Tue Jul 25, 2017 7:52 pm

This will sound terrible but I have seen a lot of vets who work with rescues miss some very obvious stuff. I don't know if they are just seeing so many animals they aren't looking closely or what is going on. Butterbean had stayed with a vet before coming to me who missed his UTI. Yeah he is a character and a half. I have to wear bite gloves to bathe him because he gets set off and then chomp. Score one hospital visit in February from one chomp.
But he is happy most of the time and cute and loving life.

I'm glad you took your girl in for the meet and greet! I woudl let the rescue you got her from know all teh stuff that was found, try not to be toooooo angry at them about it. I would say something like "so, I took her in to meet my vet and I cant' believe what we found, this and this and this, but I have her all taken care of now. She will be a new kitten in a day or two." that makes you come out sounding good and who knows maybe they will feel like they can ask you quesitons later if they ever need advice. I try to look at screw ups as opportunities to educaet people. Mind you, this frame of mind and restraining my temper is easiest over the computer, it proves much harder in person where I'm prone to screech "You idiot! How did you miss this?"
The Bendy Mom in person isn't so well thought out as she is on the computer. the benefits of technology.

Give your girl a smooch for me, and Bob too. :)
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Re: Starting to get diaper rash/sores

Post by krisrath11 » Tue Jul 25, 2017 8:29 pm

O they both look at me like "y r u kissing me? Mom it's embarrassing! So I just talked to the lady that actually set me up with Katniss and everything and turns out that this is a terrible terrible vet. I looked up online and it shows that they have killed several animals post-surgery for spay and neuter so I talked to her and we are going to try and take her to spay and neuter Kansas City where they do just that all the time and she deals with them a lot. She said this place try to euthanize 40 cats once and a rescue from Colorado saved all of them on their own dime and they refuse to pay anything. It apparently really isn't a good place from what she is told me as well so we are going to try at all cost to avoid going back especially since if they kill her I will probably strangle someone. As well have an extremely bad temper especially when it comes to my babies and all now 9 of them LOL I would gladly beat the tar out of somebody for. Nobody messes with these babies! I'm actually wondering how it's going to work out if we do take her to the Spay and Neuter Clinic as we were supposed to make an appointment in the next two weeks or so for her to be spayed so perhaps I can get it done and simply take the form to them to prove it was done. The lady is also paying for the money that I spent today on all of her medical bills because she had said before she was going to pay for Bob however his was extremely cheap at the vet she recommended so this woman might be an angel as well. I am going to try what you said just to see what they say about it because I am very pissed and if I did it my way I would end up good blowing up on them

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Re: Starting to get diaper rash/sores

Post by BendyMom » Tue Jul 25, 2017 8:30 pm

I use disposable diapers. I have little pants of various kinds I often put over the diapers, and the incontinence pads are washable. i don't even want to think about washing diapers, I have too much cat laundry already.
I use Arm and Hammer for sensitive skin when I machien wash. Tide makes me itch and I don't like the smell. I also find for the really stinky laundry, like say if darling Russell has decided to pee on the already dirty, stinky, cat laundry, thank you so much kitty, I will add white vinegar too. It helps with the smell. I also do an extra wash, just water, afterwards.
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Re: Starting to get diaper rash/sores

Post by BendyMom » Tue Jul 25, 2017 8:32 pm

i would say "I do not feel comfortable with this vet spaying her. I see a lot of bad reviews on line and I will take her here (name of place) instead. I will send you proof of spay, but I want to make sure she is done right and will get the best care.

I tend to tell people what we're doing rather than ask....probably why I don't mesh well with many groups.
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Re: Starting to get diaper rash/sores

Post by krisrath11 » Tue Jul 25, 2017 9:48 pm

How can u afford all the disposables lol. I suppose it isn't that much for just bob alone since I did it for awhile but idk about with her as well. Heck I just did the hand washing for the two of them and I did 4 shells (I forgot one) and prolly 10 to 12 pads. I learned to throw them in dawn water and then I pretty much rub together and rinse lol. Yeah I actually figured out the vinegar recently when my little weiner dog I adopted was marking my whole house and so was dozer (Bob's continent and very bad brother). Sensitive skin, forgot they made that, prolly get some for them next time. I don't machine wash a lot maybe once a week or more. Yeah, pretty sure that's what they r going to get except the funny part is I got her from the vet that was going to spay her (They r apparently the shelter as well for that town). O, I forgot that myself and the rescue lady r pretty sure that they were just going to euthanize her. They told her she was going to Connecticut, and me Florida. They first told me she was getting picked up at 2, then I needed to be there before 5 bcz that's when she was being picked up. Funny part is I didn't get back to see her until 5 til 5 (waited in the lobby for like 15 20 minutes) and no one ever came for her. They all but threw her in my car for me to get her out. Never have I not had to pay adoption fees until after the spay, nor was there a real process, just here fill in your name and address and sign here. Whole thing seems more crazy now than before actually. SO glad I got her out of there. I just hope the other critters in there r so lucky.

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Re: Starting to get diaper rash/sores

Post by krisrath11 » Tue Jul 25, 2017 10:01 pm

I completely spaced this until now, ever had a diaper baby spayed? I am very much wondering how that is going to work or if there is something special to do for them? Dissolving stitches and urine seem like a bad combo. The rescue lady is asking the place for me on age reccomemdations ECT and even said she would pay the 40 for it if we got it there (how wonderful). Told her I would ask experienced ppl and see what they said.

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Re: Starting to get diaper rash/sores

Post by CarolC » Tue Jul 25, 2017 10:22 pm

For pet laundry I used to use a diaper pail.
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I like the "Free and Clear" varieties of liquid detergent. My favorite is Sun Free and Clear from Big Lots, 50 loads for $2.50. For ground in solids, I pretreat with OxyClean Free (green lid). Sometimes they only have the perfumey kind which I can't stand, so when I see the OxyClean Free in the store I have learned to buy half a dozen bottles.

On spaying a pet you are expressing, you want a vet with good surgical skills to do it, one who understands you are going to be squeezing the abdomen post surgery. The vet may put in extra stitches, and there is some leeway on where the actual incision is made so your vet may be able to put the incision closer to the ribs. Definitely discuss it with the vet beforehand and be sure to remind them that this is the cat who will be expressed when you take her in for her spay.

(My experience is based on dogs.)

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Re: Starting to get diaper rash/sores

Post by BendyMom » Tue Jul 25, 2017 10:25 pm

Black Cherry was spayed without a problem. The incision is up high enough it wasn't much of an issue. I kept her diaper free and confined until the spay site healed, which she wasn't thrilled about but I figured was safest. I always confine them for 48 hours after spay anyway just to make sure everything heals up okay. that's simply my paranoid preference. I didn't want the diaper rubbing on the incision, just changed bedding a lot.

I buy diapers in bulk, also tend to get them donated :) Butterbean puts out pleas on his page on Facebook when we need supplies.
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Re: Starting to get diaper rash/sores

Post by krisrath11 » Wed Jul 26, 2017 10:43 am

I will definitely be mentioning that to the vet about placement ECT. I was considering regular stitches versus disolvable. The lady who is helping me out with it is wanting to wait closer to her 6 months, I like the sooner the better. I think everyone has different views on that though. The boys were done when they were 8 weeks old. I typically only confine til they r fully awake unless someone is messing with them or visa versa. I can't take the yelling and begging lol. Moo still nursed the boys (who am I kidding, bob still does sometimes) after she had it done and she healed up fine. So she took her diaper off last night while I was sleeping. I woke up to a very cute and friendly naked kitty lol. Luckily she doesn't go that much but now I have to figure out where it is. Merlin my big black kitty gave her nose kisses yesterday lol. He wants to be her friend so bad. She is very calm which is great, and she loves to cuddle

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Re: Starting to get diaper rash/sores

Post by krisrath11 » Wed Jul 26, 2017 10:43 am

I will definitely be mentioning that to the vet about placement ECT. I was considering regular stitches versus disolvable. The lady who is helping me out with it is wanting to wait closer to her 6 months, I like the sooner the better. I think everyone has different views on that though. The boys were done when they were 8 weeks old. I typically only confine til they r fully awake unless someone is messing with them or visa versa. I can't take the yelling and begging lol. Moo still nursed the boys (who am I kidding, bob still does sometimes) after she had it done and she healed up fine. So she took her diaper off last night while I was sleeping. I woke up to a very cute and friendly naked kitty lol. Luckily she doesn't go that much but now I have to figure out where it is. Merlin my big black kitty gave her nose kisses yesterday lol. He wants to be her friend so bad. She is very calm which is great, and she loves to cuddle

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Re: Starting to get diaper rash/sores

Post by krisrath11 » Thu Jul 27, 2017 3:03 pm

So I talked to the lady where I got catniss today and straight told her she was not getting fixed there because I didn't want her killed or sick. She said she didn't see a problem but I would still have to pay $50 for her adoption fee since they did the combo test, distemper, exam, blah blah. Sounds like they just want to make a dime especially since they say that is the "rescue price" (hate to see what they charge regularly). Either way I'm done with them until I have her spayed, take them the paperwork and pay for her records. I took her to have a fecal done today and it was negative. The vet I see was gone, so I saw another one and boy was the vet tech a piece of work. The scoul on her face only got worse with the look she gave when she saw catniss had on a diaper. I about slapped her! She was very judgmental u could tell and even when I heard her telling the Dr. O well, only cost me $15 to get a peace of mind and know she is "as healthy as she will ever be" according to that vet. I straight told her I don't care if she pees or poops on herself she is still healthy if she isn't sick or in pain. I made it out without killing anyone so that's a plus. She did say use mineral oil to clean her ears. U know if I can use a few drops as a laxative when one of them gets clogged? It says that's what it is for, doesn't say about cats, but everything down to a dog under 50 lbs it does. Figure if it does then I only have a gallon of it so y not use it if I need. O, fb closed my claim so I'm screwed there as they said they are not opening it back again and refuse to discuss it further. O well, have to find a new approach.

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Re: Starting to get diaper rash/sores

Post by krisrath11 » Thu Jul 27, 2017 3:03 pm

So I talked to the lady where I got catniss today and straight told her she was not getting fixed there because I didn't want her killed or sick. She said she didn't see a problem but I would still have to pay $50 for her adoption fee since they did the combo test, distemper, exam, blah blah. Sounds like they just want to make a dime especially since they say that is the "rescue price" (hate to see what they charge regularly). Either way I'm done with them until I have her spayed, take them the paperwork and pay for her records. I took her to have a fecal done today and it was negative. The vet I see was gone, so I saw another one and boy was the vet tech a piece of work. The scoul on her face only got worse with the look she gave when she saw catniss had on a diaper. I about slapped her! She was very judgmental u could tell and even when I heard her telling the Dr. O well, only cost me $15 to get a peace of mind and know she is "as healthy as she will ever be" according to that vet. I straight told her I don't care if she pees or poops on herself she is still healthy if she isn't sick or in pain. I made it out without killing anyone so that's a plus. She did say use mineral oil to clean her ears. U know if I can use a few drops as a laxative when one of them gets clogged? It says that's what it is for, doesn't say about cats, but everything down to a dog under 50 lbs it does. Figure if it does then I only have a gallon of it so y not use it if I need. O, fb closed my claim so I'm screwed there as they said they are not opening it back again and refuse to discuss it further. O well, have to find a new approach.

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Re: Starting to get diaper rash/sores

Post by BendyMom » Thu Jul 27, 2017 6:19 pm

Yeah some vets are judgemental pricks when it comes to our special needs gang. $50 is a reasonable fee, actually. The average cost of a kitten around here, to a rescue, for teh vetting and care is usually close to $200. no one in rescue makes a buck, unless you are the HSUS but that's because they don't really do rescue, they are a lobbying organization.

Keep fighting for her! Many people here on handicappedpets have proved vets wrong! A good vet will be able to admit it.

Mineral oil can be used as a laxative, yes, it is very effective, when my guys aer having issues I mix about a half a ml into their food, in addition to everything else they get. It is sort of an old-timey, folk cure for earmites, too, it smothers them. I don't know that it actually cleans ears. $15 for an exam is an amazing price. Exams here are clsoe to $50, and my vet is one of the lowest cost in this area.

that is really really wierd about Facebook. You were on for what, three days? You can always make another account using another email addy with another name. I have one set up like that just in case I get locked out again. I think often to resolve issues FB just roles dice or flips a coin, they make no sense!!

getting out a situation without killing anyone is always good. I have often told myself, if I go to prison, what will happen to my cats? It's the best incentive I can think of. Don't be shy about telling her that you have been discussing her and Bob's care with other people who have incontinent animals, and have had them for years, let her know you have a support network, if it comes up again.

I did take Butterbean to an Internal Medicine specialist to see about more ideas for his gut motility issues. She looked at his xrays (everything in him is in teh wrong place) showed them to me and said "is this normal for him?" I was able to identify everything (my regular vet always goes over all scans and tests with me) and verify that yes he is just put together very very strangely. She said I probably knew more about him than she did. We talked about gut motility and she did make one suggestion that was very helpful. instead of pumpkin, we're now using psyllium husk, it makes everything sort of gooey, which is what his gut needs to be able to pass stool. He cannot pass solid stool. He just gets clogged, then severely dehydrated. not good.

One vet, ages ago, I yelled at I was soo mad, after I fisnished yelling that I had read up on my little guy's care and knew what was involved blahblahblah she backed down, looked surprised and said "really? you have?" I guess most people don't. well, I'm not most people. I still worried about leaving him with her, but she did the surgery (PU surgery, he needed a new opening to pee out of). there were a million other screwups but that was more front desk stuff. I don't go back there. I'm fortunate that there are vet clinics all over the place here including four specialty vets within 60 miles.
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Re: Starting to get diaper rash/sores

Post by krisrath11 » Thu Jul 27, 2017 10:23 pm

Yeah around here 75 is normal for a regular kitten that is fully vetted and spayed with a microchip. I adopted mama from a shelter for 25 on special from the usual 65. Here u can go low cost for 40 on spay and it typically includes rabies and distemper. I got the babies and mom done for 25 a piece before they went up on the price. I think it is more the fact they wanted to kill her and now they want to make a buck off of her after treating her like total crap and leaving her in her own waste full of ear mites and then lying about where she was, how long she was with them where she was supposedly going ECT. I'm glad I had the gut feeling to call about her that day again or likely she wouldn't be alive. I was right about giving her that shot like the one vet said and it would be worked too, so trust me I know the frustration already. I'm from the country where we only go if we need to usually so for them to be going they need something and we are not leaving until something happens. If I'm not settled about the outcome then we go elsewhere. We have 2 vets to bounce between for cheap and a 3rd for in case that we really can't afford. I am always looking for a cheap one as ppl like the jerk lady today are not where I want to take her. If I wanted that I would go where they told me to kill bob at! If the vet we see isn't there we will likely not go. It's time for changing and bed for us though...

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